I had the chance to sit down with Andrew McMahon while at When We Were Young Festival in Las Vegas. Known best for his illustrious collection of projects Jack’s Mannequin, Something Corporate, and Andrew McMahon in the Wilderness, McMahon’s catalogue reaches depths very few do. We spoke about his historic gig at Red Rocks this summer, playing at Notre Dame Stadium, and how incredible of a movie “Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping” is.
Logan Melia: How you doing, Andrew?
Andrew McMahon: I’m doing good. How are you?
Logan: I’m doing really well. Bottom of my heart, thank you so much. I’m a huge fan. This is so cool for me.
Andrew: Absolutely. My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Logan: So, my first introduction to you was Something Corporate in 2024, last year at Riot Fest.
Andrew: No shit. Okay, amazing.
Logan: Yeah, so I’m new on the street.
Andrew: You’re new in here. I love it.
Logan: And I heard “If U C Jordan” and I went, what’s going on at that stage? And I booked it over there.
Andrew: That’s amazing.
Logan:I just, I fell in love with you guys and all your work.
Andrew: Thank you.
Logan: This return, between Jack’s Mannequin and Something Corporate, how’s it been for you so far?
Andrew: It’s been good. You know, like, I’ve been on this sort of mission to revisit these projects that were sort of foundational to my becoming the artist that I am and the writer that I am. And it felt like there was, like, some unfinished business there, you know? I’m 43 as of this year, but I was kind of leading in my 40th birthday I was like, I want to, you know, now I feel like I have enough hindsight and my feet on the ground. Let’s reframe this music in a different time, you know. So it’s been a crazy two years. It’s like I’m getting to relive the memories that, that sort of led to the writing of these songs. But getting to do it, I think, in a way that’s a little more holistic and a little more engaged and aware and seeing people still love these songs. It’s like, it’s pretty powerful.
Logan: You played quite the gig at Red Rocks this summer. With all your bands. I wasn’t there, but it looked absolutely incredible. Did you just decide one day, you know what, I want to be on stage the whole night? How did that come to be?
Andrew: Honestly, my, so my managers are based in Denver. And so Red Rocks is like, aside from being one of the most revered venues in the world, it’s in their backyard. And, they came to me one day and they were like, look, Red Rocks is willing to make an offer if you’ll do a show with two of your three bands. If you get two of the three, we’ll do it. And I thought about it and I was like, that’s too many people, I can’t sell that many tickets. I gave them all the reasons. And I finally landed on like, well, if we’re going to do this, we should just do it with everybody.
Logan: Do it all out.
Andrew: This feels important enough. Let’s not limit what can be played. Let’s just get all of these, let’s give it. Let’s get a stage for all of the songs from all of the years with everybody. And I was terrified and I worked, we worked tirelessly for a year to put the show together. I’s probably one of my proudest moments making music. And to get to share it with all of these characters and amazing musicians that helped bring all the songs to life originally. It was special in a way that it’s hard to describe.
Logan: It was all three of it. Did you start rehearsing with one band specifically? Or did you just, what was the process?
Andrew: Well, so luckily Something Corporate had been on the road for a good chunk of that year. So we sort of already had our feedback. The Jack’s Mannequin and Wilderness bands are virtually the same, give or take a guy or two. So it was really a matter of like getting that stuff back up and running and learning those songs. And then we just kind of put everybody in a room for five days up in Denver with the production build. Learned what it was going to look like, how it was going to feel. Because usually you do these production rehearsals and you get like a test run in a smaller venue. We didn’t have that. It was like, we were booting up the most ambitious show we’ve ever performed for the first time at Red Rocks, you know? So it was all of us kind of like living together for a week and, and running through sets and through sections of the show and going okay, this works. This doesn’t work. And editing in real time, it was pretty intense.
Logan: You also played a pretty cool gig opening up for Billy Joel for the first gig at Notre Dame Stadium ever, I believe.
Andrew: I mean, that I don’t know, but I know I did play, I know I played Notre Dame with Billy Joel. So that’s an interesting thought that it was their first gig ever there. That would be wild.
Logan: I believe it was.
Andrew: Yeah. I got to do maybe six or seven shows with him over the course of a few years and he was my idol. That was, for me, when I started playing piano and singing, it was all about Billy Joel. It was the first concert I ever attended. He was the music I was learning on a piano. He was the artist I was emulating when I was writing my songs, 9, 10, 11, 12 years old. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I was going to share a stage with him. And he was so kind and invited me back so many times. I was raised in an Irish Catholic family.
Logan: Me as well.
Andrew: My whole family flew out so that they could be there and see a show at Notre Dame. Because my brothers, their father, my two brothers and sister, their father went to Notre Dame. So we were like, it was a Notre Dame household and still is to this day.
Logan: Playing USC right now.
Andrew: I am getting the updates constantly on my phone. But it was a big night for my family to not only see me play with Billy, who was a family hero, but to do it at Notre Dame, which was their team.
Logan: That’s holy ground in more ways than one right there. You have a TV show that you are working on.
Andrew: I’m working on a TV show!
Logan: I just did some research for this. I was like, okay, play some really cool gigs and all that stuff. We have a TV show in the mix. So what’s going on there?
Andrew: I met this really great producer guy named Adam Londy a few years ago. He was trying to option the rights for my book that I put out, the memoir that I put out. They weren’t available at the time. He came back to me a few months later. He was like, look, I just want to do a show with you. Here’s my idea. What if the jumping off point is Orange County, where you grew up. And it’s loosely based on one of your old songs, a song called “Konstantine”. Just kind of like a rom-com, but it’s about a couple that should maybe never get together. I was like, sounds cool. Weirdly, I’ve been along for the ride. We have the amazing Pat Cunnane who is a really in-demand screenwriter right now. And then Paris Hilton jumped on board to get in the mix and produce and possibly narrate. I’ve worked in TV on and off for years. I’ve scored stuff for television. I’ve written for film. But it’s the first time I’m there from the jump and get to be a part of the creative team. It’s super exciting. For all the nostalgia going around right now, this show is going to be based in the early aughts. And we’re really going to be reflecting the culture of that time back. It’s also why Paris was such a great fit for it. But it’s in its infancy. We still have to write the pilot, get greenlit, cast, and do the whole thing. But it will be how I spend probably a chunk of next year.
Logan: That’s exciting.
Andrew: I’m super excited. I’m a TV junkie so this is allowing me to stretch out and diversify into a world where I actually spend a lot offtime.
Logan: What are you watching right now?
Andrew: I’m just in the middle of the first season, “The Fucking End of the World”. I don’t know if you’ve seen that.
Logan: I have not, no.
Andrew: It’s “The End of the Fucking World”, I think it’s called, it’s amazing. “House of Guinness” was a big one that I’ve been into. Task is the other one that is a newer show that I’ve been watching. I just revisited a bunch of old “Serpent”, serial killer kind of shit. But the go-to’s are “The Office”, “Parks and Rec”, “30 Rock”. Those are my comforts. We’re watching “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” with my daughter right now.
Logan: Andy Samberg, he’s great.
Andrew: Andy Samberg is my fucking hero. I can’t wait until my daughter is old enough so I can show her “Popstar”, which is one of my favorites.
Logan: “Never Stop, Never Stopping”.
Andrew: “Never Stop, Never Stopping”. We can go into all the songs. But yes, it’s great. I’m trying to think what else has been top of mind at the moment. Those are the big ones that I’m into right now. I just saw “Game of Thrones” for the first time this year.
Logan: How was that? I never watched it.
Andrew: I was traveling a ton. I watched every season, every episode in like two months.
Logan: Oh wow.
Andrew: I spent way too much time watching Game of Thrones. It was great though.
Logan: Won’t keep you too much longer. Do you remember the first song? Maybe not for Something Corporate or anything like that. But the first time you put together a song and you went, I got a verse, a chorus, another verse. Do you remember that song and what it was?
Andrew: Yeah, it was called “Believe”. I was nine, it was the first song I ever wrote. It was for my uncle who had recently passed away. It’s what drove me to play the piano. I always had a piano in my house. We went through this family tragedy. Truthfully, my uncle was just so important to all of us. He was really kind of like a de facto patriarch in the family, just like this guy who meant so much to everybody. I found myself sitting down at the piano for really the first time and writing a song to process that grief. That was it for me. I was like, oh shit, this is what I do now. I never looked back.
Logan: You made a hell of a career out of it.
Andrew: Thank you. I appreciate it.
Logan: What up-and-coming artists do you have your eye on? Do you have your eye on anyone?
Andrew: I guess he’s probably a little further along than up-and-coming, but Medium Build has been, for me, huge. I love what he’s saying. I think he’s a true poet and has his eye on the prize in a way that I really appreciate. There’s an artist named Annika Bennett. Again, she’s been around for a little while, but I think she’s going to continue to do big things. She’s amazing. Those are my two favorites that I’m watching closely and that I’m always hoping are going to just keep getting bigger and bigger because they deserve it.
Logan: Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down with me. I really, really appreciate it.
Andrew: Thank you.
The sun had fully set over Las Vegas as Andrew McMahon led Jack’s Mannequin through a stellar set at the Allianz Stage. McMahon played seven tracks, including “Restless Dream”, which he preceded by forewarning “This is probably ill advised; which is we are going to play a really, really quiet song. Certainly on the metal stage it’s probably even less advised, but you all look beautiful and I’m gonna come down and sing and dance with you guys”. Hopping down into the crowd for the tune off of their 2011 record “People and Things”, it was one of my favorite moments of the festival. That performance of “Restless Dream” encapsulated the warmth of this show, just pure magic. It felt as if the barricades were non-existent and the stage was built into the whole crowd as the chorus of voices sang along. You can catch Jack’s Mannequin on tour this fall across North America. Stay tuned for more coverage from When We Were Young Festival and listen to Downey’s Hour on Monday nights 9-11pm for your latest festival news!
Cover Photo by Sean Jorg. Courtesy of When We Were Young Festival.
